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WWII,Dec,1942

On Nov.7-8th, Allies landed in North Africa, the start of Operation Torch.’Til now, this was the largest operation performed by any armies. It involved the British Army and Nayy, the U.S. Army and Navy and some Vichy supporters. We were not aware of it’s success or progress. Reading my letters for December, I can now understand our Bn.’s action. On two occasions, we did dry runs of packing our clothing and equipment, making ready for a move to an unknown destination. We also labeled everything in code, 02-J J. We were all guessing and came up with Feb. Jersey Junction.

Meanwhile, I was studying camouflage work with another GI. This prompted me to request a transfer to the Air Force for Aerial Reconnaisscance. Lt. McMinn was all for it and he also mentioned that the Army was looking for newsreel photographers. He asked me if I could do it. I said sure, even though I never did motion picture work. I knew how to use the cameras. I was also busy trying to get a transfer to the Geiger Field Photo Lab, a permanent station. The head of the lab was an older man who was eligible to be dismissed due to an edict that the government passed, that men over the age of 38 were to be dismissed from service. He entered me as a replacement and I thought I would get it. But then I discovered that all transfers were being denied. Our roster had been filled and all transfers were being denied. Prior to this edict, Lt. McMinn had been transferred. I lost my guidance counselor. His replacement asked me, “why do you want to transfer?”. I said “To do the work I enjoy”. He informed me that all changes are frozen by command.
To keep us occupied during the month of Dec., we did lots of drilling and marching. One particular incident is still vivid in my memory bank. Our squad of 50 were lined up 10 across, five deep. We were being drilled by the Master Sgt. He was having a difficult time getting us organized and marching in synch. He was very frustrated and couldn’t manage us. There was one GI, who didn’t know his left foot from his right. Instead of getting off on his left foot first, he always went right. This threw off the entire squad. The Sgt. was angry and the squad was chuckling, causing the Sgt. to to get so frustrated that he yelled at me, (I had a big smile on my face, enjoying the humor of the situation), “Okay, Roth come up front. You think this is funny and a big joke. Take over the squad and drill them. Let’s see what you can do.”

Well, there I was in front of the squad. So I gave them a pep talk. Let’s show the Sarge how good we are. But first I want to make a change. I called the GI with left foot problem and told him to get white paint and put it on his left shoe, so he will know to start the march properly. I dismissed him for the day and then gave the squad a pep talk. Let’s show the Sarge how good we are. And really we were drilling in unison, marching up and down the parade grounds. I was in front and chanting Hup,2,3,4 and left, right ,etc. We were really into it for ten minutes, and I thought to myself to take a break after 5 more minutes. I was facing the squad about 5 feet in front of me and walking backwards while chanting “left, right, 3,4. , when I suddenly tripped and fell on my back. I was senseless for a short period and when I recovered, I looked around me and found the squad still marching in unison. They were now about 10-15 feet away, with their backs in view. I stood up quickly and yelled, ” Halt” They stopped at once. They waited for my next command, which I gave, ” About face”. “Forward march” and the squad marched towards me. When they came close, about 2 ft. in front of me, I yelled “Halt”. “At Ease”. I said. I thanked the squad for their behavior and said “Dismissed”. After this occurrence, whenever I passed the members of our group, they would tease me with the chant !,2,3,4.
(The GI with the left foot problem,, painted his left shoe white. Problem solved).
(PS) I was tripped by an exposed wire that had been embedded in the soil.

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WWII. Nov., 1942

I’ve just completed reading the letters for this month. It’s like a diary and was written to Shirley. I am grateful that she put them in a shoe box and that the letters are still legible. From the postmarks my address was 922nd,Bn. Co.C, Geiger Field. On a Nov.18th envelope, my address was 845th Eng Avn. Bn., Fort Wright, Wa. My rank also changed from Pvt. to Cpl. Also my duties changed from Orderly to Lt. McMinn to an unlisted position as the battalion free-lance photographer.
I’m assuming that during my period of attachment to Lt. McMinn, when I rode with him in his Jeep, for whatever he did, we would converse. I told him of my work as a photographer and that I had hoped for a photo assignment. In my mind, there is a lingering statement made by an officer, who spoke to the Lt.Colonel, top officer of our Bn., regarding my work and desire to gain more experience in photographics. I was told that this was the reply “We’re not here to give our soldiers experience, we’re here to fight a war.”
Well, that threw me, but Lt. McMinn was not deterred. He transferred me from Co.C to Hqtrs under Lt Hordyck. I’m assuming that these two arranged for me to work with the Photo Lab that existed in the campsite in Geiger Field. He was not able to get photo equipment or supplies, so I had the privilege to go to the lab every morning and not to line up for roll call, etc. It was only a fifteen minute walk for me. I borrowed a camera when necessary and visited our company daily and snapped photos of our Bn’s activities. We were in the midst of building our own campsite and officers quarters. I took portraits of the officers at their desks and on the job. They were pleased and grateful. In fact, I was asked by everyone to take their pics. There was also a demand for prints by the GIs, so I suggested to Lt. Hordyck that we take orders for prints, by displaying them on a bulletin board. We could charge a minor profit over our cost and have funds to buy film and pay for printing, which I arranged with a camera store in the city. My activity created a bond among all of the officers, non-coms and other personnel. When i gaze at my album displaying the activity and the celebration of our own appointed Battalion from the 922nd to the 845th on Nov. 1st, I can feel the comradeship that existed with our group.

Lt. McMinn evidently was happy with my work, but informed me that the roster in the engineer corps does not list photographer. He wanted to advance my rank. So, he put me up for the position of camoufleur. He brought me Army manuals and notes relating to camouflage techniques and told me to study them and prepare for a presentation to give to the officers and non-coms. I was non-plussed. “Who me?. I’m too shy” .” You can do it, and then I can give you Corporal stripes”, he said(to be continued).

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WWII letters to Shirley

I am so happy that Shirley saved all of my letter from my army period. Reading them has restored my memory and names of people I met and served with during those three years of my service in the Army Air Force. And the letters support the saying “Absence makes the heart grow fonder”. I was truly romantic. So, here is an example.     Visions. by J. Irving Roth (Nov. 7, 1942)
Visions of the past, constantly appear
Vision of memories that are so dear.
A mirage in the desert of loneliness
An oasis of life and happiness.
A shot of adrenaline to a sinking heart
Giving my life another start.
Visions of memories that bring me cheer
The vision of you, I hold so dear.
Well, you may think it’s corny, but it worked for me. Shirley waited three years for my return.

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WWII,Spokane

I’ve been reading Shirley’s collection of my letters, written during my days and years in the army. I needed to rebuild my memories of those days and I’m getting so much pleasure in recapturing them. I had just finished about a month of letters written on a daily basis. (We had several GIs form a clique, the Daily letter club). While reading these letters and re-living the period, I felt a glowing warmth entering my heart. Those were tough days to live in and having survived has enriched our life.

That period was four generations ago. Lots of changes have taken place and I sometimes revert to my old fashioned ideals and morals and find it frightening. This morning’s paper had a headline stating “Army documents cite much shoddy work by contractors” (causing death and injuries). This is Now, 2008. In 1942, when we were located in Spokane, an engineering group made up of draftees , we moved on to a flat, mountain area and with use of earth-movers and the guidance of Army officers built up a new Army Post, the 845th Army Air Force. We did not have contractors, whose only interest is profit. And the workers were not hired help but loyal soldiers, anxious to serve in the common purpose to aid our civilization.

Regarding the problem that existed for our letter a day club, out of 6 members, 4 decided to get married and I and another decided to hold off until our return. We lived in a period of abstinence. We were not exposed to sexual activities in the 1940’s, as much as the current generation is. Who knows what is best for society. I can’t adjust to the current exposures of sex life currently depicted in the cinema and TV world. I worry about our future civilization it’s emphasis on wealth and the sex, plus the attention given to beauty and sexual activities of celebraties. Our current children are exposed mainly to fun and entertainment.

I’m reminded of the Greek civilization, which worshiped the body, and built statues emphasizing it in all of their historic structures, Then, we have the Roman civilization, gone to ruin because of wine and women, as depicted in the island of Vesuvius. ( I have photos of their porno art, if anyone is interested). I have no idea how long our Western civilization will last. We have to change our ways and develop a more caring life style for all humanity.

While perusing thru the war letters, I’m only up to Nov 18, 1942, I came across an envelope, which had SWAK on the back seal. So don’t think you young folk invented Texting. Do you know what it means?l
Also, I discovered a letter indicating the fact that I finally found a suitable birthday present for Shirley. It was a suitcase,that would be useful for our honeymoon trip. I bought this from an acquaintance Max Lang, who I met in a Spokane synagogue where I attended during Rosh Hashana. He invited me to lunch at his home, We had a friendly relationship during my stay in Spokane. I would see him at his Luggage Shop whenever I got in the city.  He had been a peddler and found Spokane to  be hospitable. So he settled here.  Nice guy.

What this new generation is missing, is the ability to write letters and to express themselves to another person. We did not have cellpones and the long distance phone calls were very expensive. So, we used, what you now call snail-mail. You miss the excitement of receiving letters of romance. Here is one I mailed to SW. in Nov., 1942. (I’m sorry. Can’t find it. When I do, I will publish it..I want to show off.  IR

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WWII, basic training

My last post was June 16th.  I now have my room and computer for myself.  I had written to you family readers that our granddaughter, Rebecca had moved in for one month.  She attended the Film Academy on E. 17th St., to study film-making, script-writing, etc.  She had a busy schedule, which kept us on our toes, trying to co-ordinate our slow pace with her hectic one.  We enjoyed the excitement.  Also, we were proud of her achievements. Some of her works are posted on U-Tube.  E-mail her for info on viewing.

Let’s return to Irv in Spokane, where he finally landed to go into basic training. We arrived in Fort Wright Field on Sept 18, 1942.  We camped in Geiger Field and were to be trained for the Air Force Engineer Group.  Hindsight now clarifies the picture for our destination. In August of 1942, FDR and Churchill  had agreed to invade the Atlantic Coast of North Africa.  The action was named Operation Torch.  FDR and Gen. Marshall    appointed Gen. Eisenhower in charge, who named Gen George Patton and Gen Mark Clark to field the  troops.

At the same time the draft was activated.  Private Irv Roth was part of this major action .  He was untrained for any war action, as were all of the draftees. You never saw such a mixture of misfits, who were mostly 1B or older than 30, or unfit to be warriors.   After three months of active training, we developed into a disciplined group of Engineers, ready to support the Air Force.  During  those 3 months, we marched and drilled, we learned to fire  rifles, we learned how to  crawl with rifles ready, we marched for sixty miles with 50 lb backpack that stored our mess-kits, tents and other equipment.  We also built a wooden bridge across the Spokane River after failing  on our first effort. While our training was in progress, shipments of earthmoving tractors and heavy trucks were arriving.   Our officers successfully turned the motley crew of draftees into a functioning group of engineers.  On November 1, 1942, we were awarded our own banner naming us the 845th Bn./AAF.  This was a momentous occasion for us and I was able to borrow a Speed Graphic camera from the photo lab in Ft. Wright.  I have photos of the occasion.

I am listing names of the officers and some GI’s. Perhaps they are still alive and may see this blog.
Contact me.  Major McCrone, Lts. Hordyck, Winkle,McMinn, McCabe, Crockett, Cone, Chaplain Hall, 1st.
Sgt. Matta from New Jersey .  Contact me.  Irving Roth

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